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March 03, 2009
 

MBA Express


NEWS  THIS WEEK'S TOP STORY

Undergrad Business Program Rankings

Answers to your burning questions about BusinessWeek's annual undergraduate business programs rankings



  MORE TOP STORIES
GETTING IN
MBA Application Letters: Who to Ask
Admissions directors offer dos and don'ts for handling letters of recommendation. One tip: Forget the celebrities

IDEAS & INNOVATION
Women Shattering B-Schools' Glass Ceiling
Once almost solely the province of men, the offices of business school dean are increasingly held by women

MBA JOURNAL: ORIENTATION AND THE FIRST SEMESTER
B-School Boot Camp
"Business school is similar to West Point: 24 hours in a day is never enough"


Dealing With an Uncertain Job Market
Miami University Dean Roger Jenkins on how his school is helping undergrads deal with the uncertain job market

 B-SCHOOL FORUMS
Visit BW Online's interactive forums for wide-ranging discussions about management education. Search through over 1,359,000 posts for topics that interest you. Join in today! Here are a few samples of recent messages:

Getting into B-School--MBA Internships at Google, Intel, MS...

From: stfstf To: All
All, Is it true that high tech companies such as google, intel,...etc. are not hiring MBA interns this year??? thanks
From: sonibubu To: stfstf
I've heard that about Google, not sure about the others.
From: mbabuster To: stfstf
I do know that Intel interviewed at our campus but they canceled the 2nd round due to a hiring freeze.
From: ychang816 To: mbabuster
i work for yahoo... we're hiring interns but recruiting for full-time rotational program has been halted indefinitely.
From: stfstf To: All
thanks guys. any idea about microsoft, apple?


Getting into B-School--Coffee shop interview attire?

From: withers To: All
Do you seriously wear a suit to an alumni interview in a coffee shop? That seems weird. I'm sure plenty of people have already experienced this, but would appreciate the help.
From: dag12 To: withers
Agreed. I was wondering the same thing.
From: evilplan To: dag12
Just my experience with Kellogg coffee shop interview (int'l, alumni off-site), I came in business attire without the suit/jacket. Just a white dress shirt, dark tie, black slacks and black oxfords. He came in a short sleeved polo and khakis. He did appreciate that I came in proper attire (the best that was expected of me at least since we rarely wear suits here in this tropical country).
From: NovemberBlues To: withers
A suit is standard expected normal understood (etc etc) attire to an American B-School interview, so unless the interviewer explicitly says "business casual is fine," then wear a suit. No harm in being "overdressed," but definite harm If they show up in a suit and you are kicking back with a polo shirt.
From: deldotto To: NovemberBlues
I'm in California, and I'm pretty sure wearing a suit to Starbuck's for an alumni interview for Booth got me bonus points. The suit is a bit of over kill in CA, so it threw him back initially and it cause it to apologize that he had forgotten to tell me to dress more casual. It gave him the impression I was dead set on getting in. I got in with some serious cash, so it certainly didn't work to my disadvantage. I'd wear a suit unless they say otherwise. It will hurt you if they're expecting you to be in one, and as onther poster said, if they're not expecting it, it won't work against you...
From: withers To: NovemberBlues
So I realize its not the time for a polo, but is a tie, button down and typical business dress without a suit appropriate? Sounds like its full suit. So weird. I'd definitely be eyeing/laughing anyone in a suit at the cafe we are planning to meet at. Especially since I'm meeting someone from a nearby startup that is probably gonna be in jeans.
From: withers To: deldotto
and yea, its silicone valley, so suits are not the norm. I wear jeans and a t-shirt to work right now.
From: deldotto To: withers
Yeah, that's the norm for me as well...at one point I think I was actually shorts and tank tops. When the interviewer from Kellogg told me to wear what I normally wear to work, I had to rethink things. The main point is look professional. If you know the background of your interviewer, a good rule of thumb is to dress one grade better than them...
From: Erik09 To: withers
I had my interview with an alumni from Wharton yesterday, and I chose to suit up, even if we were meeting in a coffee shop. I was really glad about that decision, even though I live in Brisbane, Australia, which is a very chilled out place. In my opinion, it can almost never be wrong to be over-dressed in an interview, but it can easily be misconstrued as lacking interest if you show up in a more casual outfit.


Getting into B-School - Interview from hell

From: Vespasian To: All
Location: Boston School: CBS Premise: Email the guy. 4 days later no response. I email a polite follow up, yeah, here, 3 pm, no problem. "Go to the cafe in the lobby." I show up. THERE ARE FOUR CAFES IN THE LOBBY!!!! I call his phone number. It was the wrong number. I Blackberry into the interview website and get the other number. It goes to some confused grandmother. I wander around the 4 cafes until it's 30 minutes past the interview timeslot. Right when I'm about to freak out and write an email to Admissions advising them what happened, I run into him. He's quite apologetic about being unclear as to the cafe and sending me the wrong phone number (and left his Blackberry in his office, so he didn't get my repeated emails). The interview itself was fine. After the interview, about 10 days later, STILL NO FEEDBACK SUBMITTED. I'm seriously getting a bit pissy now. So I call him politely last night and put in a gentle reminder (made some sh*t up about how CBS sent me an interview reminder email) to get his stuff in. Again, really apologetic, said he'll get to it ASAP. >:-P
From: pu2003 To: Vespasian
Doesn't sound so bad, honestly. If anything, he sounds like a nice person who is just really busy.
From: Vespasian To: pu2003
Understood. Did I push too hard by asking him to get his feedback in?
From: jpmcconnellks To: Vespasian
If anything he'll most likely feel bad about the entire thing and write something more complementary to you then he would have otherwise.
From: watboy To: Vespasian
A little pushy, but probably a necessary reminder. Remember its alums volunteering to help out. I interview for my undergrad (its a top N school!), last year during my vacation home, the school set me up with 4 interviewees. On vacation, last thing I want to do is write interview reports, and if I did, I would have most likely short changed the candidates. I tend to lump all my report writings for one weekend when I have the time, even if its 3-4 weeks latter (i do take notes from the inteview). Anyways, main point is, if you had a good interview, you want them to take the time to write a complete interview report. I know my undergrad rates our reports every year and gives feedback. I've learned that a report that fleshes out the candidate as a human, a complete person and not just an application on a piece of paper takes some effort to write, just as good rec letters take time. Again, at least for my undergrad, we're told that a poorly written interview report won't be a knock against a candidate, but a well written report can make a positive impact.
From: Vespasian To: watboy
Yeah I interview for my undergrad too, but the key pt is that undergrad rpts can be submitted any time before the deadline, but CBS admissions is rolling!!!
From: mayankboy To: Vespasian
Absolutely no worries...what u did was absolutely correct on ur part!! The poor guy must be really busy and so the issues cropped up, but then its ur career and u have to take steps to ensure that is not screwed because ur interviewer was busy for whatever his reasons are (in that case, he should have refused the offer of interviewing in the first place.) So relax...nothing u can do on ur part...if there a lack of responsiveness it was on the part of the alum. Now the feedback depends on the mood of this guy (the reason why I simply hate alum interviews, the fact that my fate would be decided by an ex-student who graduatad 10 yrs back when the competition was nil:-):-):-)...u could have got through any school if u were not a criminal on run:-):-) ;;he might be a below average Joe). Do share your result with us...all the best.
From: mbafocus To: Vespasian
Honestly, this wasnt bad. He was just busy or something. Atleast wasnt hostile/ nasty. Have heard about those and I thought this would be that type of nightmare! And you were right to mail and remind him to submit the review, im sure he wouldnt mind.
From: jacket882 To: mbafocus
In all honesty, if he commited himself to this he should be more responsible about it. This is a major step in your life and the least he can do is make sure that he takes 5 minutes to answer you the same day you send mails, as well as submitting feedback on time. I'm sure he hasn't done it on purpose but it still shows a worrying non chalance attitude to your interview.
From: mbafocus To: jacket882
I agree, he should be more responsible. But there can be any number of reasons for delays. I know something happened just after my interview and my interviewer cud not submit his review. Pretty genuine reason. Your decision is pretty much made, an alum interview can break you but not make you. Rolling admissions or not, dont worry too much abt it.

 B-SCHOOL BLOGS
View over 4,500 blogs in our MBA Blogs community today! Share your journey, meet new friends, and expand your network. Connect with MBA students, applicants and alumni from Columbia, Kellogg, Notre Dame, and more! Become a blogger today! Here's an excerpt:

Creating Opportunity

my EMBA Chronicle By Susan Miltenberger
In Economics and Strategy classes we often explore ideas around creating opportunities - from developing strategies to increase economic profits to expanding into blue oceans full of possibility. We learned this winter that we are going to China this summer for our international field study. And it was great timing that the Baltimore Council on Foreign Affairs hosted a lecture a few weeks ago with Minister Xie Feng, Deputy Chief of Mission, Embassy of the People's Republic of China. Much of the lecture focused on the current economic crisis, it's global impact and the importance of working internationally - not just nationally - to overcome the challenges. During lecture, the Minister commented that the Chinese character for crisis (w;ij;) is actually made up of two elements which signify danger and opportunity. Some linguists argue that this is not an accurate interpretation of the characters and even claim that "Adopting a feel-good attitude toward adversity may not be the most rational, realistic approach to its solution." However, based on what I've been learning and what I know from my business, being able to create opportunity - particularly during challenge - is a differentiator for success.


Will Google Bosses face Jail time?

Daveforce By Dave
Bit of a surprise that four of Googles top executives might be facing some time behind bars; charged with defamation and failure to exercise control over personal data. Slightly daft if you ask me as it all stems from them, (the execs) 'allowing' a video a video of a disabled kid being bullied. The video was removed within 24 hours but they could still face 36 months in prison. Italian ISP law states owners are responsible for all content on their sites, including that uploaded by third parties. In my opinion this is blatantly ridiculous and holding the execs responsible is farcical. This sort of frivolous law suit is a reflection of the terrible suing culture ripe in America and Australia and letting this slide will only open the floodgates for more cases like this in the future.


New Official Guide Due Out Soon

Gmatprep800 By GMAT Prep
For those of you who really like the GMAC's Official Guides, be aware that in about a month, a new one will be released. You can learn more about The Official Guide for GMAT Review, 12th Edition from Wiley publishing. I have yet to see a page at Amazon. The benefits of the Official Guide are immense and this is A MUST for every serious GMAT student. I cannot tell you how important it is to have this book when it comes out as it is the only place to get official questions and answers. In addition, I wanted let you know about a GMAT study guide that I recently found and believe is excellent. In short: Buy the new official guide as soon as it comes out. It is an absolutely invaluable tool in gmat prep.
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Last week, BusinessWeek's b-schools team took a brief hiatus from our usual coverage of MBA programs to produce our annual ranking of the top undergraduate b-schools. For the first time since we began ranking undergraduate programs four years ago, we have a new No. 1. The University of Virginia's McIntire School of Commerce (followed by Notre Dame at No. 2) unseated Wharton at the top of the list.

But the changes this year go far deeper than that. In a year when undergrads and MBAs alike are having a difficult time finding jobs, this year's ranking highlights the importance of career services. Simply put, schools that excelled at this all-important function were rewarded with high student satisfaction scores and fared well in the ranking this year. There's an important lesson there: For the foreseeable future, career services will in all likelihood outweigh all other considerations as students struggle to find jobs.

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