Lovable, Moronic Capitalists
Vancouver, Canada
Friday, July 25, 2008
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*** Why the price of gold may be overpriced
the real threat you face is located east of one ear and west of the other
*** Other shoes are going to drop within the U.S. economy
American household finances are deteriorating rapidly
*** Get your children Swiss bank accounts
sell stocks, buy commodities
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Were still here, listening to presentations by various financial analysts...trying to make sense out of things...and reporting to you directly from the floor of the Vancouver investing conference.
Up on stage, our old friend Paul van Eeden is explaining why the price of gold may be overpriced.
Gold is money, says Paul, and almost only money. So, you can forget supply and demand. To figure out what the price of gold should be, simply look at what it will buy, in comparison to other currencies. The only time gold leaves its theoretical value as measured by what it will buy is when speculation drives it up or down beyond what it is really worth.
Paul is certainly right. Based on what it will buy, gold should be only about $800. But speculators look ahead...and so do we. And our guess is that gold is going to become a lot more interesting to speculators. Its above its current theoretical value because inflation rates are rising. Investors want to protect themselves. And if inflation rises further, gold will shoot up more.
But, the real threat you face is located east of one ear and west of the other, says another old friend, Rick Rule. The subprime economy and the problems it brought us are the result of subprime thinking. A few years ago, there were billboards in Southern California offering to loan people 125% of the value of their houses. Now I ask you, is it a good business to loan more than the collateral is worth to people who cant pay the money back so they can buy over-priced houses? No, of course not. It was subprime thinking.
Rick says that taking the food and energy out of the consumer price index is also sub-prime thinking.
The measurement of goods and services that the government uses to describe the growth in the economy, calculate productivity and make inflation-adjustments was a total fraud, says Rick.
Other shoes are going drop, he continues. Credit cards, for example. They also lend money to people who often cant pay it back. Say, a guy wants to buy a big TV set and cant afford to pay for it. So, he uses his credit card, figuring that it will be easier to pay for it a year later, after paying an additional 18% interest. Then they put millions of these loans together and sell them to a pension fund.
Or take the loans for leveraged buyouts. It seemed like a great business when sales and profits were rising. But when earnings go down, it becomes hard to service all that debt. In effect, we allowed the Wall Street tycoons to do the same thing as the moron who bought a house he couldnt afford.
But there are still bankers out there who know what theyre doing. Theyve got a big advantage now...theyve got money and others need it. And its always a competitive advantage when your competition is brain dead. Now there are opportunities in the financial services sector, but you really have to do some real non-sub-prime thinking to find them...and have the courage to the act upon it.
Meanwhile, back to the financial news. Moodys Economy.com:
U.S. household finances are deteriorating rapidly under the strain of increased debt and falling home prices, threatening the health of the U.S. economy, according to a new research from Moody's Economy.com, a division of Moody's Analytics.
"Household credit quality is rapidly eroding, and overleveraged households are at the heart of the economy's problems," said Mark Zandi, Chief Economist for Moody's Economy.com. "The mounting losses on household debt are straining financial institutions and will keep the economy struggling to grow for the remainder of this year and well into 2009."
But over on Wall Street, the big banks have been staging a major rally, while gold and oil have been falling. Oil was down to $124 the last time we looked. And gold dropped $25 on Wednesday. Wall Street, meanwhile, has come back from the dead or so it appears.
Was that the bottom? Everyone wants to know. Many investors think it was. And they think they can take advantage of it by buying the big banks run by the same dumbbells who packaged sub-prime loans and sold them to their best customers...and who lost fortunes for their stockholders while paying themselves millions in bonuses.
More subprime thinking, says Rick.
*** China is the next great country, says our old friend Jim Rogers to the Agora Financial Investment Symposium crowd. Of course, there will be setbacks, just as there were in the growth the United States. We had crashes on Wall Street and even a Civil War. But you still could have made a lot of money by investing in the United States. There will probably be real estate speculators going broke. Who knows what will happen? But the growth of China will be the single most important event of this century.
And the best thing you can do for your children is to teach them Chinese. And make sure their money is not in dollars. The U.S. is now the largest debtor ever. We owe the rest of the world $13 trillion...rising at the rate of $1 trillion every 15 months. And even our friends are starting to think there is something wrong in the United States. Of course there is something wrong. And the few people who know what is going on dont seem to care
the head of the central bank is on record saying that he will drop money from helicopters if that is what it takes. He doesnt know much about economics. But he knows about printing money. He controls the printing presses...and hell run them as fast as necessary to keep the economy running. You better take him at his word.
My little girls do not have American bank accounts, they have Swiss bank accounts. In 2003 bond market made its top...a big top...bonds are now a terrible place to have your money invested. Im short bonds...
And U.S. stocks have gone sideways for the last 10 years. Youre not going to make any money in stocks, in my opinion. Weve had many periods when stocks go nowhere. Were in one of those periods now... And sure, if youre a good stock-picker, you can make a lot of money. But most people need a secular bull market to make any money.
And we have a secular bull market but its not in stocks; its in commodities. There are long bull markets in stocks...and then long bull markets in commodities. And these can last a long time. The shortest bull market in commodities lasted 15 years...but it could last much longer. This one will probably be around until 2020 and Ill come back here and tell you to sell your commodities. And when I do, youre going to say: What...you old fool, dont you know commodities already went up?
Whenever stocks have done well, commodities have done badly. Stocks did well in 80s and 90s...now its commodities that are doing well. Rogers International Commodity Index is up 471% since August 98. There will be more setbacks of course, but commodities will keep going up. Commodities have done 15 times better than stocks in the past10 years...and theyll continue to do better.
Which commodities would you buy now? asked a listener.
Im buying agricultural commodities...theyre still way below their all-time highs, was the reply. Sugar, for example, is down 80% ...and thats not even inflation adjusted... Thats in nominal dollars. If you adjusted for inflation it would be down a lot more. You should pick up some of these little packs of sugar that they give you with your coffee. Put them in your pocket. Take them home.
*** Maybe James Kunstler is right; maybe the whole cartoon period is over. Kunstler argues that the suburbs produced houses that were only parodies of the real thing. The porches were only meant to look like porches from a distance. There were picture windows, but no pictures worth looking at just another cartoon house across the road.
And the shutters were not real shutters but mock shutters you couldnt close.
What occurs to us is that his critique of modern suburban architecture applies to the whole economic period, beginning in the early 70s...and lasting right up until the present. The GDP grew, but it was mock growth, not the real thing. People spent money they didnt have buying things they didnt need. People felt richer, but it was ersatz wealth a misleading sensation caused by inflation of their house prices, credit cards, cheap products at Wal-Mart and home equity lines.
The whole economic model was a scam. You cant really get rich by spending more money. Its saving money...and investing it in productive enterprises...that makes you rich. Yet, for the last 30 years, the feds have been encouraging consumer spending as a way to boost the economy. Wall Street turned over trillions of dollars pretending to add value by better allocating capital and credit. What it really did was to pay itself huge fees for loading down the whole society with debt. And even the wealth supposedly created in the stock market turned out to be phony. Compared to increases in the price of gasoline, the Dow went nowhere for the last 40 years.
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*** At dinner, an old friend who happens to be in the coin business explained how customers used rare coins as an informal way of estate planning.
These old fellows are pretty shrewd. They come in and buy coins. Sometimes millions of dollars worth. Then, they put them in storage somewhere and leave a note to their children about where to find them after they die. Often, the kids dont know anything about coins. So they come into the shop with bags of these coins, asking me what theyre worth. One guy came in the other day. I looked at the coins and told him he had about $350,000 worth of coins in his hand. He practically fell over. Then, he told me he had another 14 bags at home.
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