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June 10, 2008
 

MBA Express


NEWS  THIS WEEK'S TOP STORY

Fall Recruiting Moves into Summer

With an eye on the softening job market, some B-schools are staging career events earlier in the calendar



  MORE TOP STORIES
INTERNATIONAL B-SCHOOLS
India's Business Schools Need an Upgrade
A business group study finds that most MBA programs need better faculty, texts, and certification


Video: A Look at the Job Market for MBAs
Andy Chan, director of Stanford's Career Management Center, offers insight into the job market for MBA students. He also tells how to develop a long-term career vision

THE DEBATE ROOM
Wealthy Colleges: Ante Up
Colleges and universities should be required to spend 5% of their endowments every year or risk losing their tax-exempt status. Pro or con?

B-SCHOOL NEWS
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It's time for BusinessWeek.com to start planning a new series of MBA Journals. Here's how you can become part of this select group of writers

 B-SCHOOL FORUMS
Visit BW Online's interactive forums for wide-ranging discussions about management education. Search through over 1,359,000 posts for topics that interest you. Join in today! Here are a few samples of recent messages:

Getting into B-School: MBA in Hollywood

From: badgerbuddy
To: ALL

I wish to work in the entertainment industry post-MBA, specifically for a major Hollywood studio. Do you know of any studios that offer a summer internship program for business school students, and can you suggest the function (finance, marketing, etc) I should pursue in B-school that can lead to a position in executive management, as quickly as possible?

I work in investment banking, and I am bored with it. Originally, I had planned to return to IB post-MBA (for the *mullah*), but screw it, I want to do something interesting, and be in a position to meet (and marry) a celebrity. :) Any advise will be greatly appreciated.
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From: EmBeeAyTwentyTen
To: badgerbuddy

I know nothing about that career path or about these schools, but I would think you would want to be at UCLA, USC, or Stanford if you have any interest in working in Hollywood. There probably isn't much recruiting on campus and you'd have to go knocking on the studio's doors to find a gig, which might not be too attractive for a couple years, but I really have no idea.
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From: EmBeeAyTwentyTen
To: All

Just curious, do you currently do I-banking in NYC, California, or elsewhere?
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From: badgerbuddy
To: EmBeeAyTwentyTen

I'm in NYC, and will be attending Kelley (Indiana) this fall. How difficult will it be for me to break into Hollywood with a degree from this b-school?

I checked. No Hollywood studios conducted on-campus recruiting at Kelley.
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From: oskibabe
To: badgerbuddy

At Kelley you need to connect with Professors Tom Bowers and Tim Baldwin. They were in charge of the Sports and Entertainment Academy which is sadly no longer part of the program but as an alum who was in that Academy I can vouch for the strong ties they have to graduates and I'm sure they'd be a great resource for you. Good luck and go Hoosiers!
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From: gh23mba
To: badgerbuddy

I worked in Hollywood for 5 years prior to BS, but mainly on the production side. I think your best bet if you want to work for a studio is to go to one of the LA schools or H/S. Most of the studio people that I knew went to USC/UCLA, (some at Pepperdine or LMU). It is all about connections. Going to school outside of LA makes it difficult, not impossible, to break in.
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Getting into B-School: Tuition Reimbursement at Top Schools?

From: johndavid
To: All

Hi All,

I am trying to figure out whether some companies recruiting at top schools promise part / full tuition reimbursement (on top of sign-on bonus).

I have heard that some consulting and corporate positions do. But I would love to know the names of specific companies.

Cheers
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From: DRIVINWEST
To: johndavid

Microsoft gives out several 50%-100% tuition reimbursements at Texas each year.
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From: johndavid
To: DRIVINWEST

Thanks.

More specifically, I am not looking for a current employer reimbursing. I am looking for information on new post-MBA employers, if they reimburse.

Cheers
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From: riverripper
To: johndavid

I know some banks and MC companies will pay for 2nd year of people who intern and accept a job from them. Industry it will work differently for different companies and job functions.

Several alums I have talked to have their companies paying X dollars a year towards loans...So say they pay 10k a year, but you have 1,000 a month payments you pay the 2k difference but still its a good deal. Some industries where its hard to find folks with the right background (read that as very specific career paths) you can get sponsored by a company you dont work for, I know one person who got a company to pay for a full ride to a top 5 school...he was required to work for them post grad for several years or he would have to pay them back on a sliding scale (same way for employees). Since it was one of his top choices for his career anyways it worked out perfectly for him and he didnt have to worry about recruiting.

These people aren't in typical MBA career paths, few people head to the companies as MBAs and from what I have been told outside of the finance areas of the company prior relevant experience is very important. I know that tuition reimbursement to recruit and retain talent is becoming more and more common...if you have 10 years worth of loans and they are basically paying that its a lot better for them than paying you to go since it is an incentive for you to stick around long term.

If you know what you want to do and who you may want to work for research them specifically. Just because someone got a company to pay doesn't mean you will if you want a job in an industry where that's unheard of or they don't need to do that to get qualified folks.

 B-SCHOOL BLOGS
View over 4,500 blogs in our MBA Blogs community today! Share your journey, meet new friends, and expand your network. Connect with MBA students, applicants and alumni from Columbia, Kellogg, Notre Dame, and more! Become a blogger today! Here's an excerpt:

The Big Choice
By Parker Humbert
Comments: 0 Stars: 0


After making up my mind to pursue the MBA degree, the next logical decision was to where I should apply. I am constantly amazed at how the level of analysis for this important process varies so widely depending upon the individual. I had a process that I want to share, but as a disclaimer, I'll acknowledge that I am certainly no expert (an acknowledgment that should likely be made with every post). Consistent with the rest of this blog, I can only offer my observations and opinions.

"If you don't know where you're going, any path will take you there."
More specifically, how can you possibly know what institution will help you achieve a goal that you have yet to define? Your choice of school should have a direct correlation with what you hope to get out of the MBA degree itself. Therein lays one of the most common oversights in the process. Many applicants begin their B-school evaluation without consideration of exactly what goals they want to accomplish with an MBA degree, and how that school could help them.

Perhaps they rely solely on the countless rankings that are available (beginning with BW, of course). Or maybe they look at schools that friends have spoken highly of. Or they may take a price-centric approach, looking mainly at tuition. There are countless approaches available, none of which are right or wrong...as long as they always consider your desired endpoint.

"The journey of a thousand leagues begins with a single step." Okay, so all long-term philosophical considerations aside, how the heck does one even develop a list of schools from which to explore? Again, there have been countless successful approaches to this question.

After clearly defining my purpose and goals in pursing the MBA, I developed of a three word "value statement" for what I wanted from my ideal B-school. "Rigor, Relevance, Reputation". These three words would act as my guiding light for narrowing down the list of the hundreds of possible schools to which I could apply.

I recognize these qualities may seem somewhat difficult to quantify considering that each of the three must apply to the individual and their particular strengths. Part of the beauty of these principles is that their relevance lies in their ambiguity. What I mean is that they are broad terms that require interpretation on the part of the person using them. My definition of Rigor is different from that of my wife's. What I consider Relevant, my best friend would not. My interpretation of a great Reputation can and should differ from yours. Personalizing each aspect ensured alignment with my ultimate goals.

"Whenever you see a successful business, someone once made a courageous decision."
Now comes the fun part...its decision time. Using my value statements, I was able to generate a group of roughly 20 schools from which I had a verified, direct interest in. My next step was to narrow this list down to a handful of institutions to which I would apply. I began by creating a spreadsheet listing each school. I then identified and ranked a set of variables that were important considerations in my decision. These included Location, Job Market, Cost of Living, Rigor of Curriculum, Location Unemployment Rate, Class Size, Distance from Family, etc. I weighted each of these variables according to their importance to me and sorted them to create my top ten...
FOR THE FULL VERSION


 WORDS OF WISDOM
Admissions directors offer their advice
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There are tell-tale indicators that an applicant may be ill-prepared to participate in an MBA program: 1) lack of full-time, professional, post-bachelor work experience, 2) statement of career objectives is vague and lacks a balance of personal and professional experience, and 3) (this is the biggest pitfall) if a parent or spouse calls regarding a child or spouse's application. --Reena Lichtenfeld, University of South Carolina (Darla Moore)

Typically this is reflected in the essays -- the applicant's career goals are unrealistic, their expectation of what the MBA can do for them is unrealistic, and/or their understanding of their strengths and weaknesses, compared with other applicants, is unrealistic. The letters of recommendation and the interview are also areas where we probe for maturity, interpersonal skills, and preparedness. --Laura Parks, University of Florida

We require four essays and the fifth is optional. We examine the essays to look for maturity and preparedness for the MBA education. In addition, during the admissions interview, we will get a even more complete picture of the candidate to find out if he/she is too young or not yet ready for B-school. --Connie Tae, Erasmus University (Rotterdam School of Management)

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  B-School Insider
Dear Reader:

Summer used to be for relaxing, those last few weeks before MBA classes and the internship/job hunt mania began in the fall. But like much else, things are different now, and our lead story, "Fall Recruiting Moves Into Summer," examines how recruiting is beginning even before June is out.

Also this week, we look at a new report out of India ("India's Business Schools Need an Upgrade") that reports harshly on the quality of many of the business schools that have emerged in recent years.

As always, we welcome your comments on these and other stories.

Until next week,
Phil Mintz
B-Schools Channel Editor


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