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March 04, 2008
 

MBA Express


NEWS  THIS WEEK'S TOP STORY

The Best Undergrad B-Schools

More kids--and better qualified ones--are studying business in college. And they're nailing fatter salaries when they get out. Meanwhile, academic programs are getting more specialized
- Slide Show: The Top Programs
- Slide Show: Niche Undergrad Programs
- Poets, Painters and Portfolio Managers
- Business as Unusual
- Extracurriculars that Count

Story > >



  MORE TOP STORIES
MBA JOURNAL: MIDYEAR UPDATE
Promises to Myself
Our journal-writer has learned that saying no doesn't necessarily work in B-school and that the quality of the learning trumps the quantity of the work


Winning a Business Plan Competition
University of Oregon's Randy Swangard talks about how to win that business plan competition -- what to keep in mind before you apply, and why it's sometimes better to come in second

VIDEO VIEWS
Iowa's Prediction Market
Joyce Berg, director of the Iowa Electronic Markets, talks about how business schools are using the tool for research and teaching

VIEWPOINT
Techies Need to Know the Business
Smart companies make sure their technical experts have an understanding of the business that extends beyond a single department or function

LIVE CHAT
Navigating H1-B Visas
Discuss this pressing issue for students seeking to study in the U.S. with our guest, attorney David Ware

 B-SCHOOL FORUMS
Visit BW Online's interactive forums for wide-ranging discussions about management education. Search through over 1,359,000 posts for topics that interest you. Join in today! Here are a few samples of recent messages:

Getting into B-School: Masters in Finance

From: poizoniv
To: ALL

Dear All,

I was unable to find any threads on the Masters in Finance programs in the US and thought I will start one myself. I am planning on applying to the one year Masters program in the University of Illinois at Urbana Champaign and the 10 months Masters program at the Olin School of Business, Washington University. My Stats are: 700/F/3.5 WE in Financial Services/ 3.9 GPA. I know the program at UIUC is better known. But I feel the program at Washington, even though is quite new, has very good potential in the future. Please do let me know what are your views on the above two programs.
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From: MJBtex
To: poizoniv

Indiana Univ.
Kelley School of Business
Top 20 Business School
MS in Finance online
~$950/ credit - Good Deal

http://kd.iu.edu/programs/msf/overview.htm

I was looking into the dual MBA/MS program online but I am from NY and from what I hear Kelley is mostly regional and would not help me in the way I wanted it.
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From: DanInVA
To: poizoniv

I am not too familiar with those programs, but I know that Carnegie Mellon (Tepper) has a Masters in Finance program, and it is a good overall program. You appear to be qualified for the program as well, based on your stats.
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From: poizoniv
To: DanInVA

The program at Carnegie Mellon is quite good. My problem is I have a geographical restriction. I am applying to schools only within the state of Illinois. Have you come across any rankings for MS finance programs in the US?
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Getting into B-School: Kellogg vs. Wharton

From: blue2008
To: All

Interested in entrepreneurship and have IB and mid market PE experience. Applied to HBS, Kellogg and Wharton. HBS Ding, Kellogg Admit and Wharton (awaiting R2 decision). I don't have much time between the enrollment decision date for Kellogg (4/2) and Wharton decision date (3/27), so I feel I need to make up my mind in advance. So... Kellogg or Wharton?
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From: sonibubu
To: blue2008

Are you looking to go into entrepeneurship, i.e. start your own business, or into the VC side? If entrepeneurship, then look for best fit. If VC, probably Wharton.

Most people I think would prefer K if everything was based on student life and fit, but if you don't have a preference of one over the other I would recommend Wharton. K has a rep as being strong in management and marketing, while Wharton is probably more well-rounded overall.
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From: riverripper
To: blue2008

Honestly for pretty much anything finance related you want Wharton. Most people would have hard time picking Kellogg over Wharton, the few exceptions seem to really prefer the Kellogg community over Wharton or want a career in Marketing. Kelloggs deposit is only a grand so if you need to you could pay and go to Whartons admit weekend if you get in and see if that makes it easier to make the decision.
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From: blue2008
To: riverripper

Thanks for your initial responses. A few additional thoughts:

I plan to start/buy a business during or post b-school but try to remain realistic about the odds of success. If things don't work out, I hope to get back into PE or VC (Does Wharton vs. Kellogg matter?)

I prefer Chicago to Philly but not necessarily to other east coast cities. (Any downside to a Wharton degree in the Chicago market? Does Kellogg have any pull on the east coast?)
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From: sonibubu
To: blue2008

If you want to get back into PE/VC as a backup, obviously Wharton is the stronger choice here. Just go with riverripper's advice, go to W's admit weekend and check it out. Heck, you may find it to be a great fit and end up loving Philly.

 B-SCHOOL BLOGS
View over 4,500 blogs in our MBA Blogs community today! Share your journey, meet new friends, and expand your network. Connect with MBA students, applicants and alumni from Columbia, Kellogg, Notre Dame, and more! Become a blogger today! Here's an excerpt:

Ivey MBA: Ten [Months] Down, Two to Go
By George Kesselman
Comments: 0 Stars: 0


As we are nearing the end of the Ivey MBA experience, reflecting back on the past 10 months it's hard to imagine that we have only 2 months to go till the end of the program.

It's been quite a journey with its fair share of ups and downs. We are just finished our last exams for the core part of the Ivey MBA curriculum (Module 2b was all about Marketing, Leveraging Information Technology, and Managing Operations). This week has been quite intense for us, started with the trip to Toronto on Monday for the Auto show and meeting with the folks from BMW who talked to us about their brand positioning and marketing strategy.

Then came Tuesday when we presented possible IT ideas to Vancouver Olympics Committee to help enhance 2010 Winter Olympics. The icing on the cake was that they've promised to incorporate the top idea or two into their technology roadmap. So watch for a possibility of blogs coming to their website.

And then exams exams exams: Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday!

Now we only have to take care of our Ivey Consulting Project, finishing which is going to make for a fun first week of March, being sarcastic here... Next week we have Sabre marketing simulation, which is supposed to feel as close to running a company as it gets in a virtual world. What makes it even more interesting is that we are competing in teams against other people our class. After Sabre is done, it's on to our last cycle of electives, which is going to last 7 weeks (each elective lasts 2 weeks, with a 3 hour class each day. I've decided that this is a home stretch so I might as well load up on knowledge, so I'm taking 2 courses each two weeks (New Venture Creation, Supply Chain, Advanced Communications, Entrepreneurial finance and Entrepreneurial manager, and Value Investing). I envision that this is going to be quite intense experience, considering that I'm still in the midst of my career search activities.

Can't wait for the MBA to be done, although somehow I think I'll miss it once its all over. It's been a fun and challenging experience. I loved the learning and will take away a lot of new friendships with a group of very bright and ambitious people!

Cheers,
George
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 WORDS OF WISDOM
MBA grads offer advice on school and work
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You can get consumed by the work in business school if you let it. Do NOT let that happen. Some of the greatest learning for me, was the social time I spent with my classmates, learning about their experiences and using that information to better understand what I want to do. Also, life does not "go on hold" while you're at business school, you have to take the time you need to make sure you have balance or you may lose something that you do not want to lose. Remember, business school is only two years long, normal life resumes afterwards!
-Fuqua '96, Management Consultant

Be social. Be decent. It's more important to befriend your classmates than to beat them out for grades.
-Columbia '97; Internet Entrepreneur

It is very difficult to balance the workload and maintain the semblance of a normal lifestyle. While I had to put some lifestyle elements on the back burner during b-school (school friends, family, favorite TV shows), the extra mileage I got out of getting involved with school activities and getting to know my classmates definitely paid off. Contructing a solid network of friends in B-school really carries over to your life "in the real world." The old school friends and family events are fairly easy to catch up with.
-Fuqua '98; Brand Manager

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  B-School Insider
Dear Reader:

This week, we lead off with our third annual ranking of the best undergraduate business programs, and, for the third year in a row Wharton leads the list. But it has an increasingly strong rival in the University of Virginia, which closed the gap between the top two schools. You can check out the whole list in our interactive table.

Also in our package is a look at how some well-known liberal arts schools are adding more business programs to their curriculum - not without some controversy - and how some regional schools are using their local assets to develop niche undergrad programs.

And finally, for those still in high school and considering an undergraduate program, there's some advice for which extracurriculars will help you gain admission, and which won't.

As always, we welcome your comments.

Until next week,
Phil Mintz
B-Schools Channel Editor


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