Date:
Wed, November 28, 2007 10:08:34 PMFrom:
High Rankings Advisor
Subject:
High Rankings Advisor: Changing URLs - Issue No. 218
~~~High Rankings Advisor - Issue No. 218~~~
Your Host: Jill Whalen [jill@highrankings.com]
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~~~IN TODAY'S ADVISOR~~~
*Search Engine Marketing:
----> Changing URLs
*This Week's Sponsors:
----> Successful PPC Ads
----> KeywordDiscovery
*Stuff You Might Like:
----> Market Motive Online Marketing Membership Site
*High Rankings Forum Thread of the Week:
----> Changing Homepage URL
*Advisor Wrap-up:
----> Upcoming Conferences
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~~~Introductory Comments~~~
Hey everyone! Today I've got an article about changing your URLs as well as
an awesome review from Jesse on the new membership site, Market Motive.
Enjoy! - Jill
~~~Search Engine Marketing Issues~~~
++Changing URLs++
Hey Jill,
I am in the process of changing all my URLs from things like news123.html to
OurCompany_Announces_New_CEO.html
Are there any problems associated with these wholesale changes, apart from
making sure to have a redirect for external inks?
Please let me know.
Thanks,
Lorenz
++Jill's Response++
Hi Lorenz,
I would highly recommend *not* changing your URLs at all. It is a common
misconception that keywords in URLs are somehow helpful to search engine
rankings, when in reality, they have very little (if any) effect on
rankings.
The reasons why people believe they help rankings are many, but generally
center on a mixing up of cause and effect, as many people learning about SEO
are apt to do.
For instance, when you do a keyword phrase search at Google, you will see
your keywords bolded on the search engine results page, including keywords
that appear in the URLs. People see this and assume that it means Google
factors the bolded words into their relevancy algorithms. Yet, the software
that does the bolding is just that -- software that is programmed to bold
the queried words that show up in the listings. It's a huge leap to think
that the bold type has anything to do with Google's actual algorithm.
Another reason why people wrongly assume that keyword phrases in URLs are a
factor in getting a page to show up in the search results is because the top
results do indeed often use keyworded URLs! But (and this is a big but)
websites that use keyword-rich URLs are using them because someone,
somewhere is attempting to optimize the pages to show up in the search
results -- which means they are doing a lot more than simply putting
keywords in URLs as part of their website optimization. Very rarely will
you see a page show up in the search results if the only place the keyword
phrase appears is the URL. Most likely the phrase is also being used in the
Title tag and other visible places on the page. So again, there's a mixing
up of cause and effect.
What has happened over the years is that the mixer-uppers have spread the
word that keywords in URLs will help with rankings, so others believe it and
make changes to their own URLs, making more and more keyword-rich URLs
appear in the search engine results pages (SERPs). Which, of course, feeds
the myth-monster even more!
All that said, this is somewhat of a tricky one to prove one way or another,
and it certainly doesn't hurt to use keyword-rich URLs when building a new
website. It often makes it easier to remember the URL, which is why on our
new High Rankings site most of our URLs will have keywords. It's not for SEO
purposes, but for usability purposes. If we didn't have to change our URLs
due to switching backend platforms, we definitely wouldn't go changing to
keyword-rich file names. But since we had to change them anyhow, I figured
we could use our site as a test bed to see what happens when you change
URLs. (And yes, I realize we could have done some complicated things behind
the scenes to continue to keep our URLs the same as they were, but in this
case, we felt changing them and redirecting was our best solution.
Especially as I can probably get a few good articles out of it later!)
I can't stress enough that you should never change URLs simply for SEO
purposes. But if you do have to change them, and you do want to eke out any
possible search engine benefit that you might get, then you should not use
underscores between the words, but hyphens instead. Even though Google
recently announced that they were going to start reading underscores as a
word separator, traditionally they haven't. They do read hyphens as a
separator, however. So if Google decides to use URLs to rank pages, then
you'd want to at least create them in a way they can read. You would also
not want to put two words together like "twowords.html" as they don't
separate words that are mashed together that way either.
Where you may benefit from a keyword-rich URL that has its words separated
by a hyphen is when another site links to your page by using just the URL
because it becomes somewhat of a keyword-rich anchor text link. For example,
if someone links to your page with this URL
www.example.com/keyword1-keyword2 (instead of using traditional anchor text)
you'd still have keyword1-keyword2 as part of the anchor text, which does
tell the search engines that the page they're about to go to is at least
somewhat relevant to those keyword phrases.
So in answer to the original question, instead of changing the existing
URLs, make sure you've optimized the page elements that do matter --
especially the Title tag, the anchor text pointing to that page, and the
words on the actual page itself -- and don't worry about the URLs. Changing
them can lose any "age equity" that you may have built up with your old
URLs, with minimal (if any) effect on rankings.
If after all this you still feel the need to change them, be sure to put
301-redirects in place from the old URLs to the new, and use hyphens rather
than underscores.
Hope this helps!
Jill
Share your comments and thoughts here:
(P.S. If anyone would like to republish the above Q&A article, please email
me your request and where it will reside, and I'll send you a short bio you
can use with it for your site.)
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~~~Stuff You Might Like~~~
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In fact, I'm off to watch some videos on Internal Site Search Analysis!
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SEO Associate, High Rankings
www.highrankings.com
[Jill's comments: When I sent Jesse's review to Marketing Motive to make
sure we were accurately depicting their membership site, Michael Stebbins
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~~~High Rankings Forum Thread of the Week~~~
++Changing Homepage URL++
For those looking for some advanced SEO info, we have a ton of it in our
"Technobabble" area of the forum:
great info on dynamic sites, as well as mountains of technical info on
redirects, mod_rewrites, etc.
An interesting one this week came from forum member "star1" whose homepage
URL had to change for technical reasons.
Read the forum post and responses here:
~~~Advisor Wrap-up~~~
That's all for today!
Next week is WebmasterWorld's PubCon in Vegas where I'll be speaking. If
you're planning to attend, please feel free to introduce yourself. I love
meeting HRA subscribers! I'm speaking on the SEO 101 panel as well as the
SEO Copywriting one. There's more info here:
Also, for those of you who like to plan ahead, I'll also be speaking at
Danny Sullivan's SMX West Conference in Santa Clara, CA on Feb. 26-28, 2008.
Get a jump on registration and the early-bird price by signing up now via my
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you use them!)
Catch you in Vegas, baby! (Or in the next newsletter!) - Jill
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