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WebProWorld Members,

We all know what today signifies so I won't go into details... I will, however, go into details about our lead subject.

The impact of valid site code and a strong search engine presence have long been debated here, with never the twain agreeing to meet... at least not on a consistent basis. Needless to say, this discussion was brought up again in the Web Accessibility Forum and again, the debate went back and forth.

This time, Mike enlisted the help of search engine heavy hitters, asking them to give their thoughts about this particular subject. Some of these hitters include Vanessa Fox of Google and Tim Mayer, the head of Yahoo Search.

For the newsletter purposes, I featured the lead post and some of Vanessa Fox's response. This a good jumping off point for those of you looking to join the conversation. However, I think this particular subject, at least in regards to the search engine industry, has been pretty much resolved. Take a look and see what you think.

Make sure you check out the rest of the update as well. Have a great wee... well, have a great couple of days and we'll see you on Monday. BTW... Paris Hilton is back in jail. If that doesn't indicate a good couple of days period is on the way, nothing does. Take care,

| Chris |

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What About validator.w3.org?
Web Site Accessibility and Usability
What About validator.w3.org?

I went to The W3C Markup Validation Service and checked my site, and it returned 85 errors. So I checked Yahoo, Google, Ebay, iLike (pure CSS site) and various other sites and they all return errors. Who uses this thing? Everyone seems to rave about how you need to check for errors and whatnot, but if the big guns are doing just fine (heck, even a pure CSS site returned errors and they're using the latest technology), then what's the point of validating with W3.org or validating period?

Google's Vanessa Fox:

Google does a great job of crawling and indexing the pages of the web, regardless of how well those pages validate. As you might imagine, much of the web is full of pages with older HTML code, as well as pages that don't validate and it's important to us to have as comprehensive index as possible and include those pages. We strive to return the best results possible for searches, and for that, we look at the content of the pages, not how well they adhere to standards.

One way to see how our crawlers interpret a page is to view it in a text-only browser such as Lynx. Validation issues won't impact a site's crawlability as long as we can extract text from the page. Broken formatting only prevents our crawlers from extracting content from a page if, for instance, the broken formatting prevents the content from loading in a browser.
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Site for Review http://www.subrosa.arbre.us

I ran my site through the standard report card and accessability validators. Fixed what I could. I posted this request for review a few days ago, but it got moved and I don't know why. Anyway, would appreciate some comments on my web site.

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I built this site: Shawn York Builders | Montgomery Alabama (please no comments about the design, they took a great design and turned it into this, note a lack of tagging in the footer as I won't sign off on it as my own work, won't show it in my portfolio either).

The problem is with the gallery page and the way it presents in IE. It looks geat in FF on MAC and PC, but I for the life of me can not work out how to hack this thing up to work in IE. Please, your help is greatly appreciated.

I have been working on this for 3 days and have only been able to real it in from margin-left: 50%; to what you see now. I was also able to get it to align where I need it on the top. But I can't get it where it needs to be and floating as the page opens and closes (expands/ contracts).
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I work for a company selling mailing lists. We use PPC to drive traffic to our sites for lead generation. We have oodles of data from over 4 years ago, however, we haven't had a chance to analyze it. Recently, we looked at our sites, and were shocked to see that the bounce rate was between 50-70%!!!

I'd like to know why, and if I can; improve that. (Unless that's standard?)

One of the things I am researching is using a popup to engage the customer, and incentivize them to stay. It's against Google's TOS in adwords to have a popup in the landing page. We recently found a new potential way to do it using an "onBeforeUnload" javascript command. It looks pretty slick, and has been used by some mainstream companies already.

My question is, is that against Google's TOS?
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I got a job as the webmaster for our local texas newspaper. ( www.texarkanagazette.com ) I just finished a redesign and now want to try to get the online advertising up to where it should be. A lot of our ad spots are empty or paying little to nothing but we get a boat load of traffic. Only problem is our area isnt very technology centered. Does anyone have any ideas on how I can enter the national market for advertising? I am open to anything.

(Traffic is about 20-29k page loads a day according to statcounter. There is no in house stats.)
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